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Let’s Read: The Art of Dying

The lecture that we will be reading and analysing in this article is the lecture called The Art of Dying. Let’s start it off with this quote from Neville:

“…you would see that no one can grow without outgrowing. But man is not willing to outgrow, [and] yet he wants other things than those he has. But if you remain in one state, you will forever have to suffer the consequences of not being in another state.”

The dying that Neville talks about in this lecture is dying to our current state. In some other lectures, he describes this dying as an act of shifting from the state of lack to the state of having, the state of the wish fulfilled. 

We must take into account that we cannot serve two masters. This is why Neville tells us that we can’t exist in two states simultaneously. You can jump between one and the other. An example that we can often see is with people who are manifesting their specific person. When their specific person starts displaying hot and cold behavior, to me, that is a clear sign that they are not being faithful to their wish fulfilled. They haven’t settled for one state. They are jumping from one state to another. Instead of staying in the state of the wish fulfilled, they stay there temporarily and then return to the state of lack. 

As Neville says, if we want to have consistent results, if we want for our wish to be fulfilled, we must die as the old man and be resurrected as the new man. We must let go of that old story and dedicate ourselves to the new story. 

For example, if Mary successfully manifested her specific person Francis, at some point she undoubtedly shifted out of the state of lack. How did she do that? She chose a technique that resonated with her and used it persistently until having her desire felt natural to her. In this case, let’s say she chose to do the lullaby method every day until her thoughts aligned with having her desire and she was completely indifferent towards a failure. Her faith became so strong that she didn’t even entertain that idea anymore. That is when she knew that she “died” and was “resurrected”. In other words, she shifted her state.

“So I see my dream, and I must learn to die to what I AM in order to live what I want to be.”

This process may sound scary at first. Dying is something that most of us grew up fearing, for one reason or another. However, once we learn about the Law, we must understand that the shift from one state to another must be complete. This is why Neville equates this process to dying. You so completely shift into the new state that it looks like the old version of you literally died, it is nowhere to be found because you buried it. You have no need to be this person anymore. The new version of you, the one that has already received what that old version wanted, is much more fun, isn’t it?

With that being said, Neville also reminds us that:

“The present state cannot be carried into the new; it has to die as a consequence of the new made alive.”

All these doubts that you are having, all these thoughts that aren’t aligned with you being the version of yourself that you wish to be, they must all be left behind. This doesn’t come through force or effort, though. You can ease into it by frequently assuming that you are now the person that you wish to be. Feeling the feeling of the wish fulfilled will become like second nature. The way you can reach this feeling is by use of techniques, whether it’s SATS, affirmations, scripting or something you come up with on your own, do keep one thing on your mind: the best technique for you is the one that helps you get into that state as easily as possible. 

And always remember:

“If he longs for something it means that he does not have it, else there could be no longing.”

I have already covered two different ways on how you can tell what state you are in, when analysing other lectures. This is the third way in which you can tell what state you are in. Do you still feel the longing for something? 

If Mary wants to be with Francis, it means she doesn’t have him. She is not with him. This type of “wanting” is different than the one people sometimes confuse it with. Yes, you will still want your partner once you get together, in that you will want to spend time with them, you will want to share things with them, you will want to experience the next thing like marrying them or having children with them. But longing is definitely different from that. Longing implies that you do not have this person at all. If Mary is longing to be with Francis, then she feels like she still needs to manifest this relationship.

If you find yourself still in the state of longing, take Neville’s advice:

“I will contemplate the desired state until I get the feeling or reaction that satisfies. (…) I am filled with the emotion that implies the act is completed.”

Repeat the imaginal act until you feel the satisfaction. 

 

Now, this is where Neville mentions another thing that I consider to be important. We have already learned that signs follow, they do not precede. The signs that this applies to are the signs that follow the imaginal act. However, there is another kind of signs. In the past, some of us needed a sign in order to start changing things in our lives in the first place. This is what Neville says about that:

“I do not wait for signs to appear; it is when I am most aware of my restrictions and feel the pressures, then is when I must learn to die. I must learn to let go of what my senses dictate and ‘go mad’ and yield to what is only a dream. But sustaining it and living in it, I die to what was physically real as I gradually lift up what was only the dream.”

We do not need any special sign “from above” to shift our state. Not being happy with where we are right now is the sign enough. Knowing the Law, we know that we can change the circumstances of our lives and we do not need to fulfill any prerequisites to be able to do that. 

 

But the shift must be complete. Or as Neville says in this lecture:

“If you hold back within yourself, wonder, ‘What will I play as my last card if this doesn’t work?’ then you have not yielded, you have not nailed yourself to it.”

When you are a beginner, you may want to keep yourself safe, so to speak. You may want to try this out but you also want an alternative in case this doesn’t work. This implies doubt. Another thing that it implies is that you aren’t ready to take that full leap of faith. However, most of us sooner or later get to the point where we think, “Either this works and I get out of this situation or it doesn’t work and I am back at the start. I have nothing to lose.” That’s when we finally take that leap of faith. That being said, it doesn’t mean that you have to get to that point in order to be able to fully take the leap of faith. You don’t have to wait until you feel cornered and see no other way out. Actually, the sooner you do it, the faster you will get the results! 

 

“It means dying mentally. Man dies to ill health, or poverty, or to disharmony, etc., but he does it by yielding to other states.”

So, do not be afraid to die to the things that do not serve you. Do not be afraid to leave behind the things that you do not want in your life. You know the Law and you know what you should be able to achieve with it. It is time to test it. Knowing is not enough. You have to put it to practice. 

“…states remain and man passes through states, as through cities. If I do not pass through some state, but remain in it, I think [it] is the only reality. You cannot conceive of a state that is not, for the whole is finished; but man is awakening only by dying to state after state.”

Therefore, decide to die to what you no longer wish to be. Do not stay in states that you do not consider positive and think that you cannot get out of it. That would be like taking your own power away. 

If Mary wants to be with Francis, she must die to the state of being abandoned. That version of herself should no longer exist in her mind. She should now live in the state of being loved and cared for. But if she continues to think from the state of being abandoned, it will seem to her like that is the only reality that exists out there.
Mary knows that there are unnumbered states but because she keeps entertaining this one, this is all she is seeing. This illusion is deceiving her into thinking that different states may be wishful thinking. As long as she doesn’t decide to change this and consciously starts thinking from a different state, she will be stuck in this state and argue that there are no other options. Mary remembers what she once read in Neville’s lecture The Art of Dying:

“All things are burned up when we cease to behold them.”

Knowing this to be the truth, Mary can now consciously shift into the state of being loved. The state of being abandoned will cease to exist in her reality because she will move her attention away from it. But she must do this fully. She must take the leap of faith and not look back because, as Neville says:

“If I am true to the likeness of what I behold, then I – the “old” man – cannot go into the new state.”

Therefore, she must completely abandon that old state of hers. She will no longer entertain the state of being unloved or abandoned. Those states are the states that she had moved on from. 

 

Many of us find this shift to be somewhat “difficult” at first. A question is often asked, “Do I need to believe my affirmations before I shift” or, “Do I need to believe my scene is real?” Neville gives us the answer to that as well:

“It is so unnatural to feel myself to be the man I want to be and to actually get into that state and ride it without being thrown by reason, which tells me I am made. But if you know the Lord is your Imagination, you can ride it into Jerusalem.”

The reason, your logical mind, will try to fight back. These are the moments when you have to decide whether or not you want to believe the logical mind, which doesn’t see beyond the world of effect, or do you want to continue doing the imaginal work, which is the cause of all things that we observe in the world of Caesar. Always keep in mind that this is how this reality works: Your imagination is the cause. Your physical reality is the effect. The opposite does not apply. 

It may feel unnatural. You may want to give up because you can’t make your logical mind shut up at first. However, the more you practice, the easier it becomes! Like with anything else in this world, practice makes a master. 

It all comes down to this:

“I try to catch the feeling that would be mine if [I were] the man I [want] to be, but that involves a death. I must abandon myself to my dreams as if it were true, and – living in it – I lift it up and make it real.”

 

In this lecture, Neville gives us two great examples that I want to mention here. The first one is slightly more on the theoretical side. He says:

“Can you not see then how it is with your friend who always tells you the same things, even though you have not seen him for ten years? Everything is still recurring, nothing is new, but that makes him feel secure. Man does not want change; it frightens him.”

I am sure that there is at least one person in your life that hasn’t changed their state in months or even years. Think about it! Think about that one person that is always complaining about the same thing, again and again. Maybe it’s somebody who is constantly complaining about being unemployed or maybe it’s somebody who is constantly complaining about their partner not spending enough time with them. Maybe it’s somebody who is constantly arguing with their parents or somebody who just cannot seem to get enough money to pay their bills. Whoever this person is, we must keep two things in mind! First thing is, we can change their state by seeing them as the version of them that already has their desire. If it’s a friend that is unemployed, see them as employed. If it’s a friend that is complaining about their partner, see them as somebody who is in a happy, fulfilling relationship. If it’s somebody who is constantly arguing with their parents, see them as a person who has a healthy relationship with their parents. If it’s somebody who can’t pay their bills, see them as wealthy. The second thing is, they seemingly cannot leave this state because they keep thinking from it. They keep reacting to it. They are focusing on the problem instead of the solution. Now, combining the two things that I have mentioned would be a very good way to test the Law, so feel free to use it because not only will you prove to yourself that you can change another’s state but you will also prove to yourself that you do not have to stay in one state permanently, that different states really do exist and that focusing on the solution is the way to go about this. 

 

Now, there is another thing that people sometimes ask us and that is, isn’t it selfish or even greedy to use the Law in such a way? Isn’t it “wrong” to affect other people’s lives, especially if they seem to want something else or enjoy their current damnation? Well, the answer is no. We must understand that no matter what, we are always affecting other people’s lives, whether we do it by keeping them in negative states or positive states. Knowing that, wouldn’t it be better to affect them from a positive state, then?

“Do not think you are greedy because you are demanding things or the changing of things. You are here to create as your Father creates. Want what you want and yield to it and create it. (…) You are the only one who can clothe it in reality. But it remains a state unless you yield to it.”

 

This brings us to the last part of this lecture which is dedicated to revision. Neville says: 

“The past can be unmade. So a man has done this or that. Use your strange Imagination and ‘turn the great wheel backward until Troy unburns.’ It means to revise.”

I admit I am guilty of not using this great tool nearly as much as I should but I do know that it works. However, it is one thing to know that it works and another to apply it in our lives. We can be aware of the existence of work and yet never apply for a single job. In a case like that, we cannot expect to be paid or to get the same benefits as those that are employed. So, if you are one of the people who hasn’t been using revision that much, I invite you to read this article and see how revision can help you to die mentally to the old story. 

 

That being said, I will end this post by sharing with you a story from this lecture that isn’t often shared in the Neville forums but it is absolutely fascinating, nonetheless. It’s a story about revision and how powerful it can be when used. 

“I know a lady who burned her hand and then ‘unburned’ it. She poured boiling water on her hand. She lay on the couch and tried to undo mentally what had been done. It was difficult because of the pain but she kept trying. She redid the scene and poured the boiling water on the tea and brewed it and then she drank the tea. She did it over and over and finally in the act of thus making the tea she fell asleep. When she awoke some hours later, there was no trace of the burn. She wrote: ‘You would have thought I should go right to the hospital, but now there is not even a sign of the burn.'”

10 thoughts on “Let’s Read: The Art of Dying”

  1. Dear Ivana. I just ‘adore adore adore’ your blog. As always beautiful post. I look forward to your posts eagerly. You are the best teacher.

    I wanted to understand if the exact state of being married to my SP exits if I can imagine it in my mind’s eye ? What kind of feeling can I impress my logical mind with during the day when lack thoughts come ?

    Thanks

    1. Thank you Kethryn! This means a lot to me!

      If you can imagine it, it exists. The feeling that Neville talks about is the feeling of naturalness. You repeat the imaginal act until it feels natural for you to have your desire. It becomes like an every day thing. For example, you have a phone. You don’t even think about it anymore, or at least you don’t think about it from the state of “having to get it”. You know it’s yours and that’s the feeling you want to reach with this process as well. Don’t be alarmed if you start feeling like you are “losing” your desire. It happens sometimes but it’s actually your desire being transformed into something that you already have, something that feels natural to you. Going back to the example with the phone, imagine you want a new iPhone. Once you buy it, it’s yours. You no longer think about the prices and other things. Although you may want to manifest a free charger on top of that for fun 😂
      Throughout the day, you flip your thoughts to be aligned with the state of the wish fulfilled. Although, in my experience at least, if you are doing regular SATS, your thoughts will align fairly quickly on their own. Once it’s impressed, failure and doubt seem irrelevant. They feel like a thing of past.

  2. Hi Ivana
    I love this post!
    3 mornings I started to meditate by focusing on my breathing, visualize my specific person of me being on a date–I made sure I catch the feeling on the present moment–I also even started on affirmations about being in a relationship, ignored thoughts like, “This isn’t working.” or “Nothings happening.”, revisioning once some unpleasant events with specific person, I even started SATS with my sp these 3 nights, I made a journal and recorded some manifestations like how I got my dream college, fixed my mom’s relationship with me and some small things. I’ve drawn into conclusion that all I manifested so far have one in common: I’ve got all them by going through my normal days feeling natural like it’s not a problem and lived as if they were fixed. I only imagined one of them once and I forgot about it.
    Here’s the thing, I’ve never done SATs, scripting, visualizing for 10mins to get my current manifestations. But I figured I do something different to ‘die’ and ‘resurrect’ to a new state to attract my sp and more specific things in my life. It’s also my logic mind that keeps popping out saying these new techniques won’t work. Also, my own technique doesnt seem to make it faster because I think my belief is that I have to completely move on and forget my desire to get it. Meaning, I have to not think of my sp not even once. This also counts as shifting to new state right?

    I had this crazy instance one time, after watching a show about a girl not interested with this handsome guy who’s always after her, i came into a thought process that it doesn’t really matter If I don’t get my love interest. Thats when the next morning he texted me. I was less interested (lol) but then he kept going. We’ve chat for hours. I was starting to ‘fall’ for it or him again. All my desires came back(i was mesaging him after that day) he appeared to be less interested. Yeh the chat died after that.

    Anyway, i can conclude from that I may have a belief that I can only get things I once want and dont desire anymore or just don’t think about it. Ironic right? How about SATs and Visualization? it involve thinking and feeling of sp. Should I just changed my belief that visualization and SATs is exceptional and it’s fine to think about my sp within doing those technique while for the rest of my day forget my problems and feel as if it’s already fixed(or just focus on solution if I can think one)? While I do that, I should continue practicing feeling natural with techniques like I did 3 mornings ago? Just a bit doubt honestly, if this changes anything…damn my logic mind lol..

    Thank you for letting me post a question Ivana. I hope to hear your thoughts about this and what would you do.

    1. Here’s the thing, I’ve never done SATs, scripting, visualizing for 10mins to get my current manifestations.

      Yep. This is why we tell you that techniques aren’t necessary. They are used only to get you into the state of the wish fulfilled but you could get there without the techniques too.

      It’s also my logic mind that keeps popping out saying these new techniques won’t work.

      You don’t have to believe that a technique works. You manifest by feeling your wish fulfilled frequently. That is what the technique is for. It doesn’t manifest anything. You manifest. It’s your ability to impress your subconscious mind by dwelling in the state of the wish fulfilled/frequently returning to the feeling of the wish fulfilled. And that feeling can be brought to the surface by many different techniques. Of course, it’s easier to go for a technique that you already believe in, because it will stop this negative mental chatter, and there is nothing wrong with using the same technique you used before you knew how to consciously use the Law, if you can remember it.

      I think my belief is that I have to completely move on and forget my desire to get it. Meaning, I have to not think of my sp not even once. This also counts as shifting to new state right?

      I want you to take what you wrote here and apply it to the things that you have already manifested in your life. How do you think about it? Is it true that you do not think about it at all? For example, the college that you mentioned. You are already going there, do you ignore that you go there? When people ask you what college you are in, do you avoid the question? No, you answer it but you are coming from the state of being a student there. When you need to do your homework or work on a project, do you pretend it doesn’t exist so you won’t think about the college? No, you do your work, and once again you are coming from a state of already being a student there. This is the shift that you have to make if you are to bring your SP to you. It’s not about not thinking about him at all. Does it work? Yes, because now you’ve created this rule that you can’t think about it and that’s when it will come through. But this can be extremely limiting. Of course you will think about your SP, even when you are married. However, what you will do is think about him from the state of being his wife.
      Taking this a step further, forgetting about something and eliminating all thoughts of it works because you also eliminate the old story, without realizing it. But it also implies that you still have to “do” something in order to get it. It implies you don’t have it. In actuality, all you have to do is impress your subconscious mind until you start thinking from the state of having it automatically.

      Thats when the next morning he texted me. I was less interested (lol) but then he kept going. We’ve chat for hours. I was starting to ‘fall’ for it or him again. All my desires came back(i was mesaging him after that day) he appeared to be less interested. Yeh the chat died after that.

      I can’t tell what beliefs you have since I’m not in your head but this could be a result of a deeper general belief that guys run away when you show interest or something like that. What you are doing here is reaffirming that story and creating a new limiting belief, a new rule for yourself. You are saying it only works when you are distant. Change that story. It is not true. Your new story should be: everyone you want, wants you back.

      Should I just changed my belief that visualization and SATs is exceptional and it’s fine to think about my sp within doing those technique while for the rest of my day forget my problems and feel as if it’s already fixed(or just focus on solution if I can think one)?

      No. Go back to the example I gave you, the one about college and answer that question for yourself. How do you think about the things that you have already manifested? Even if you haven’t manifested anything consciously, you have manifested it unconsciously. What this means is that you can pretty much take anything in your life as an example and observe your thoughts about it. You don’t have to forget anything. You just have to realize that this is something you have been doing your entire life. Do not complicate it. It’s very simple and you don’t have to change your entire perspective and all your beliefs in order to start manifesting because you have been manifesting your entire life and you are manifesting as we speak.

      Hope this helps.

  3. Hi Ivana…. I really look forward to your posts. I love your page and really appreciate the time and efforts you take to help people in their journey. You guys explain everything so beautifully and with so much conviction. It is insightful and helped me in my journey. Thank you so much ♥️

      1. Thank you so much for such detailed help. This is such a great manifestation that I managed to get answers I wanted even though my question was long…I’m so grateful that I get to receive them. They just sound so genuine and truthful. I’m glad that you’re really willing to help other people Ivana.

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